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Zelda64 bible; read
Topic Started: Feb 23 2016, 12:32 PM (3,398 Views)
AriaHiro
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A mentally drained friend
Most may not know me but i've stuck around over the years. I never was really in the scene but behind them. some people are new here so i created a short autobiographical excerpt in my own perpective of how the community has changed throuought the decade, its been 10 years and rocky but im here to shed light and tell a brief anonymous history of the scenes downs. why are there two communities? why do people hate ura mods? those questions will be answered. if anything else its a entertaining story. https://www.dropbox.com/s/tlxm8fqriund89c/Zelda64%20Bible.txt?dl=0.
I encourage people to tell their stories to educate the next generation modders and possibly software developers.

Please, I know it's not entirely possible to stop drama due to the nature of this topic but please avoid all possible mudslinging. Drama KILLS communities.
You guys are ok so far.
Edited by AriaHiro, Feb 24 2016, 07:13 PM.
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AriaHiro
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I admit i was a little overdramatic but i feel it was necessary. since its on dropbox i can modify it on the fly with suggested changes as long as I dont fabricate lies to censor myself. as such i edited it so it was less rude about the situation. I also in hindsight feel it was inaccurate calling the URA project a "scam".
forgot the dont in i dont fabricate. old times huh xdan
Edited by AriaHiro, Feb 24 2016, 06:27 PM.
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soulofdeity

I don't know how many times I've said this, but Zeth did not run off with anything. All donations were strictly for the website, which was owned by ShadowFire. Any extra cash went into his pocket, and frankly, what he does with his money is his own business.

If you're mad about the project being cancelled, get over yourself. Practically everyone who joins the website at some point starts their own project, and almost none of them get past the logo and name stage before someone's computer (which has untold amount of amazing never-before-seen content) spontaneously combusts. In over 10 years, there's maybe been 2 completed projects among the hundreds of members across a multitude of websites (one of which being Zelda's Birthday). As a word to all, until you slap a patch on my desk for a completed full-featured mod, I don't want to hear a damn word about how horrible a person someone else is because they couldn't finish theirs.
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AriaHiro
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im not ripping on zeth or anyone for that matter. im not mad and couldn't care less about URA.
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LordHexahedron

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Feb 24 2016, 05:28 PM
It's all about the experience. Learning, and self development alike. The community has shaped me to become a (mostly) respectful individual. Became very technically inclined. Learned problem solving skills. Became an above average 3D and 2D artist. And most importantly learned who to keep in my life.
Oh of course, I won't deny that this community had a massive impact on how I've developed and matured (be it positive or negative, that's not for me to decide).

As for why I listed my (lack of) achievements, it's mainly to point out why I have nothing major to contribute - my main reason for even responding was to respond to SoD.
Now, in any case I'm going to go and read up on some docu, over half a decade of inactivity implies some amount of decay in what I remember.
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z64offline
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Started in Maco, had no experience whatsoever. Ura caught my attention, and like many, became inspired to learn to mod. Toiling away, I tried to learn but have been banging my head just learning to understand some of the tools. (Nothing wrong with them, whats wrong was how slow i am to learn in comparison as to how fast i can actually impliment what i learned in refined manners). I havent done noticably much to contribute, but i have taken what i knew i liked best and have gotten better. Though i am currently torn how to or whether or not to advertise my works and ideas, given that its difficult to show sonething that requires a hell of a lot of knowledge and skills as a multi pronged way to create a mod.
My strength continues to be map making, but that is just my preference.

Note: i must re edit due to late night drowsiness and a lack of incomprehension in what i just wrote...
Edited by z64offline, Feb 25 2016, 02:19 AM.
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Three Pendants
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Hmm, a thread about catharsis. Very nice. I guess I'll give my take on the situation...

I had been playing Zelda since before I can remember, starting with Zelda 1, and not getting ALttP until a year or so before OoT. I ate up all of the information on what was coming out of the Zelda 64 project from Nintendo Power and then the game was released. The game was one of the best things I had ever played (FFIV still holds that honor as the best). Shortly after it's release there was a site called Odyssey of Hyrule that had a bunch of Zelda 64 rumors, glitches, and the like. I found Swordless Link to be simply amazing. Then the "beta quest" codes were discovered and I engrossed myself in that as well, but for some reason I was terrified of it, so it was a weird sensation like walking through a haunted house or something whenever I booted up Beta Quest. I experimented a lot with Crooked Cartridge and played a swordless Child Link run way back in the day. I then re-engrossed myself into the beta and in so doing discovered ZSO in roughl 2006, I believe.

When I got there drama had already come and gone many times, unknown to me at all. Certain hackers were still allowed in at this time and I became a sort of devotee of theirs. I am a business oriented person and people who know me for a long time online would say this about me so I managed to avoid a lot of the drama for a good period of time. I was enthralled about how things were being done and I became an amateur Zelda64 hacker as a result of a lot of coaching from people like JSA and DarkLink-77. It seems I gathered a small amount of fame when I was one of the first to use JSA's ZLE to an actual effect with one of the first story patch releases with our primitive tools. Then ASM became a large part of how things were being done, but at the time I couldn't really grasp it and still bowed my head in awe at DL-77, Sakura, and other hackers accomplishments. At about this time I was made into a moderator on ZSO (though I have no idea what soulofdeity is referring to in his original post about ZSO being hacked. This is the first time I heard of that story, at the time the ZSO hackers claimed they did what they did because they disagreed with MN's choices.) and as a result I was forced to confront the drama and choose sides.

After a certain hacker said some truly disgusting things about a well respected fellow hacker I decided that I had enough of him and split ways from him all together. Eventually the community started to push out more and more tools and it seemed as if Utility of Time was on track to replace JSA's Zelda Level Editor, but it was still unstable, from the first to the last. At this time Sakura and I discovered the damage charts and thankfully these were not lost to time.(Sakura found the first instances with ASM and I followed a basic pattern to find the rest.) She and I also found the actor spawns in other actors in the same case as above. These halcyon days couldn't last forever though and eventually the same trouble makers came back and brought the community low. At this point I walked away from it all. It was tiring and there was no right way to go about restoring a semblance of order, a power vacuum had emerged and it seemed like everyone was rushing to fill it. I said some awful things at this time about some of my own fellow hackers which I still regret to this day.

Eventually, after various hacking explorations in other games such as Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy IV, and the PS2 dot hack games, I returned to Zelda 64 while it was on GCN. I want to say I was invited by Airikita or JSA, but I can't exactly recall. GCN seemed like a great start, at this time Zeth had just about disappeared so there needed to be new excitement to enliven the community. I used my much improved hacking skills to explore the event system and event items of OoT and produced some of my best work there including items gained from specific events, mapping, MP Cost of spells, a full Animation Map, how songs were actually learned (that one was a doozie), loading Kokiri outside of the Lost Woods and Kokiri Forest and possibly most importantly modifying bosses beyond just their HP and damage, but to what they were vulnerable to, their timers, and a litany of other matters to really switch up how bosses would be fought. The majority of this data was put on the wiki and disseminated by MZXRules to its appropriate pages where it is much cleaner than I ever had it. It seems some of my other notes had been lost though.

Unfortunately at this time I found that a fellow friend and hacker was beginning to slip. His moods had become erratic and his paranoia was reaching absurd levels. Eventually he and I thought that the community would be better in our hands after some questionable decisions were being made by the leader of GCN. Shortly after enacting our plan I realized I had made a mistake. My friend was too unstable at the time to lead himself, let alone a community and his lashing out at our other hacker friends did nothing but alienate him. Seeing the sad state he was in I left the community again, hearing periodic updates from Airikita about her Amazing ASM hacks.

I am now back, just perusing for the moment, but have been keeping up with how things have been going. Something seems to have happened to the GCN in the interim and now Zelda64.net and GlitterBerri's Zelda channel seems to be the new home of Zelda 64 hacking. It is another step and it seems like the community has recovered a fair amount. I am looking forward to seeing this community blossom, but as always, beware of the seeds of discord which seem to always lurk beneath the surface.

Zelda 64 hacking is a worthy hobby, it is a sincere tribute to an amazing game and series.
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Sylux102
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Three Pendants, I'm not gonna lie. I saw your postand immediately scrolled to the bottom (as I do with all long posts) to check if everyone was gonna do the dinosaur. Pleasantly surprised, I returned to the top.

Gotta say, i feel like a privileged, rich white kid in a 1980s Harlem (I kinda am though lol).
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Mar 7 2016, 08:23 PM
Three Pendants, I'm not gonna lie. I saw your postand immediately scrolled to the bottom (as I do with all long posts) to check if everyone was gonna do the dinosaur. Pleasantly surprised, I returned to the top.

Gotta say, i feel like a privileged, rich white kid in a 1980s Harlem (I kinda am though lol).
I can only assume where that is someone making a long post and then just filling the majority of it with "Everybody get on the floor, everybody walk the dinosaur"? It's been so long since I heard that song, I had no idea that was something that people did on the internet, must be ?fairly recent? if that is indeed what you were referring to.

If not, I have no idea what you mean, hehe.
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Sylux102
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Yes that's the song. It's generally a long post and the very last sentence where the most important info would go is replaced with the do the dinosaur quid. That or Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
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